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  <title type="text">rec.arts.sf.written Google Group</title>
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  Discussion of written science fiction and fantasy.
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  <updated>2010-09-10T01:29:03Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>DougL</name>
  <email>lampert.d...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-09-10T01:29:03Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Old Books Become Silly Re: Hugo Awards</title>
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  I seem to recall two stories by the same author that struck me as &lt;br&gt; being Libertarian Utopias. &lt;br&gt; Basic setup is a &amp;quot;libertarian paradise&amp;quot; is visited by galactic empire &lt;br&gt; types who can&#39;t seem to understand their use of IOU&#39;s and free trade &lt;br&gt; to organize their society, and who also appear to not have mastered &lt;br&gt; such elementary skills as armed robbery 101. I want to claim the
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  <author>
  <name>Konrad Gaertner</name>
  <email>kgaert...@tx.rr.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-09-10T01:27:52Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Old Books Become Silly Re: Hugo Awards</title>
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  I believe Moran&#39;s _The Last Dancer_ had humans as descendants of &lt;br&gt; aliens, and that was published only 17 years ago.
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  <author>
  <name>Keith F. Lynch</name>
  <email>k...@keithlynch.net</email>
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  <updated>2010-09-10T01:25:06Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Old Books Become Silly Re: Hugo Awards</title>
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  Socialism wouldn&#39;t work even if people were perfectly unselfish. &lt;br&gt; See &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <author>
  <name>Dano</name>
  <email>janeandd...@yahoo.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-09-10T01:20:57Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Don&#39;t talk to Aliens Or God!</title>
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  There is one God. And there is no universe without God. &lt;br&gt; ------------------------------ -------------------------- &lt;br&gt; Of course. And Her name is Oprah. &lt;br&gt; But you knew that.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Keith F. Lynch</name>
  <email>k...@keithlynch.net</email>
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  <updated>2010-09-10T01:23:11Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Bradbury: &quot;too many internets&quot;</title>
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  True. But, to be fair, they can certainly pull off other tricks. &lt;br&gt; The DC Metro has plenty of security theater, but nothing that would &lt;br&gt; prevent a smart terrorist from killing a few hundred commuters. &lt;br&gt; The terrorist wouldn&#39;t even have to die in the process. &lt;br&gt; I&#39;ve changed my life because I&#39;m afraid of the government&#39;s response
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Howard Brazee</name>
  <email>how...@brazee.net</email>
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  <updated>2010-09-10T01:16:53Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Prison colonies in SF</title>
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  On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:51:59 GMT, fairwa...@gmail.com (Derek Lyons) &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; Of course we find people around the world, proud of being descendent &lt;br&gt; from the great conquerors of the world, despite the fact that they &lt;br&gt; would hate what those conquerors if those conquerings occurred today.
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  <author>
  <name>Howard Brazee</name>
  <email>how...@brazee.net</email>
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  <updated>2010-09-10T01:13:37Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Linguistic obliviousness: &quot;Wan&quot; == &quot;Juan&quot;</title>
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  On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc &amp;lt;jsav...@ecn.ab.ca&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; Or in recognizing that names change over time.
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  <author>
  <name>DougL</name>
  <email>lampert.d...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-09-10T01:14:09Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Brust&#39;s Dragaera came out of an RPG, anything else nearly as good?</title>
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  That was appearantly a fairly straight theft of the Empire of the &lt;br&gt; Petal Throne setting based on comments from people familiar with both.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Howard Brazee</name>
  <email>how...@brazee.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-09-10T01:12:33Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: If Marriage Is Lost, We Lose Everything</title>
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  On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:49:47 -0700 (PDT), alpha-omega &lt;br&gt; No.
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  <author>
  <name>Keith F. Lynch</name>
  <email>k...@keithlynch.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-09-10T01:13:41Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Old Books Become Silly Re: Hugo Awards</title>
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  Are there? I can&#39;t think of any since Hogan&#39;s _Inherit the Stars_ &lt;br&gt; 33 years ago (unless you count its sequels). And he had us evolve &lt;br&gt; elsewhere after our ancestors were transported from Earth, so it &lt;br&gt; barely counts.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Howard Brazee</name>
  <email>how...@brazee.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-09-10T01:11:31Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: If Marriage Is Lost, We Lose Everything</title>
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  On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:39:09 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc &amp;lt;jsav...@ecn.ab.ca&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; Sort of like wearing polyester suits and eating bacon, except &lt;br&gt; homosexuality is icky.
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  <author>
  <name>Steve Knight</name>
  <email>sknigh...@cox.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-09-10T01:12:11Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Stephen Hawking&#39;s Junk Science Atheism</title>
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  On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 06:47:29 -0700 (PDT), Sound of Trumpet &lt;br&gt; snip &lt;br&gt; Irony. A great word, but sometimes it isn&#39;t enough. &lt;br&gt; Warlord Steve &lt;br&gt; BAAWA
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Howard Brazee</name>
  <email>how...@brazee.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-09-10T01:10:21Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.ls/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/ce1134718841b592/ce924af465e2f262?show_docid=ce924af465e2f262"/>
  <title type="text">Re: If Marriage Is Lost, We Lose Everything</title>
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  On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:04:35 -0700, Steve Knight &amp;lt;sknigh...@cox.net&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; Of course, if marriage is a sacrament, then get the state out of the &lt;br&gt; marriage business. Let churches decide who can get married. Not &lt;br&gt; just your church, but all churches. If your church allows for &lt;br&gt; divorce, that&#39;s its business. If it allows for gay marriage, that&#39;s
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Keith F. Lynch</name>
  <email>k...@keithlynch.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-09-10T01:10:51Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.ls/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/423f1e8b9ac260d5/f132c5b2537b0879?show_docid=f132c5b2537b0879"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Old Books Become Silly Re: Hugo Awards</title>
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  Indeed. All it would have taken was for Earth to be transported to &lt;br&gt; the surface of an Alderson disk. :-)
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  <author>
  <name>Gene Wirchenko</name>
  <email>ge...@ocis.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-09-10T01:10:47Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Bradbury: &quot;too many internets&quot;</title>
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  On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:26:37 -0400, &amp;quot;Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; [snip] &lt;br&gt; One possible lapse is a surveillance camera is not mounted &lt;br&gt; sufficiently securely and it falls on someone killing him. &lt;br&gt; Sincerely, &lt;br&gt; Gene Wirchenko
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